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Van mreže hajime

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Re: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #75 poslato: Avgust 08, 2006, 07:48:12 posle podne »
Znao sam to i ja,procitao sam u jednom od tvojih postova :),  kad radim kardio gledam da mi ide oko 130 otkucaja u minuti mada nekad skoci i ne mogu stalno da ga merim zato mi i treba taj sat.
A mene konkretno interesuje da li bi meni skodilo da idem sa njim na brzo hodanje s'obzirom da sada trcim i vozim bajs 1h. I koliko bi trebalo da se hoda da bi istrosio priblizno isti broj kalorija.

Hvala za sajt ali ne znam da li salju ovde, prolunjacu malo beogradom i naci cu nesto 100%, samo da valja.

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Re: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #76 poslato: Avgust 09, 2006, 08:32:51 posle podne »
vrjedi li 3 puta u tjednu 30min bicikla jedno 15-do20kilometar i jedno 250-300kalorija tako barem biciklo oko prilike  pokazuje,i posle toga 5 serija trbusni s tegom na stomaku jedno po 15 ponavljanja,a koda se ne vrjedi malo zagrijati na biciklu prije treninga??

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Re: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #77 poslato: Avgust 09, 2006, 10:05:33 posle podne »
vrjedi li 3 puta u tjednu 30min bicikla jedno 15-do20kilometar i jedno 250-300kalorija tako barem biciklo oko prilike pokazuje,i posle toga 5 serija trbusni s tegom na stomaku jedno po 15 ponavljanja,a koda se ne vrjedi malo zagrijati na biciklu prije treninga??

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Re: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #78 poslato: Avgust 09, 2006, 10:54:18 posle podne »
u slucajno napravi temu valjda se moderatori nece ljutiti nisam ni vidio ,a cilj skiniti masne naslage,samo to radim radi trbusni a puls od 100 do 120 tako nesto

Van mreže fitness_instruktor

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Re: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #79 poslato: Avgust 10, 2006, 07:06:27 pre podne »
puls od 100 do 120 tako nesto

MOŽEI MALO VIŠE NAJBOLJE DO 135 O.U.M

Van mreže Blah

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« Odgovor #80 poslato: Maj 01, 2007, 12:16:33 pre podne »
Pozdrav svima, novi sam, ali vidim ima dosta zanimljivih stvari ovde ! :D

Elem, poceo sam polako sa aerobnim treninzima u cilju skidanja masti (bilo bi lepo videti svoje trbusnjake :P)
Trcao bih, uglavnom ujutru... E sad, posto sam dosta ispao iz forme poceo sam prvo nekim sledecim ritmom:
1) 15 min-ostar tempo+10min-lagano
zatim 2 min setanja
2) 10 min lagano

Na kraju trcanja sam merio puls i bio je oko 130.

Zanima me da li da nastavim ovako (polako povecavam minute a hocu da izbacim pauzu) ili da jednostavno trcim laganim tempom sve vreme ali nekih 40+ min?
Ponavljam cilj je skidanje masti. HVALA

P.S. Ako neko zna gde ima da se izmeri BF u Beogradu i koliko kosta, molim vas neka napise.
« Poslednja izmena: Maj 01, 2007, 09:34:33 pre podne Blah »

Van mreže Nico

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Odg: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #81 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 12:34:18 pre podne »
BF meris najbolje tako sto kupis neku vagu (za oko 50 ojra koja ti pokazuje % vode u telu, masti...).
A dugi kardio slabog intenziteta nije najbolje resenje, osim naravno ako nisi bas debeo, ili ako si bas van forme.
pogledaj HIIT princip trcanja.

Van mreže Corey

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« Odgovor #82 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 01:05:53 pre podne »
Bilo je priče da te vage nisu tačne ponekad, i da umeju da prikažu sasvim drugu brojku koja nije ni približna realnom stanju stvari.

Van mreže ĐORĐE KOLUNDŽIJA

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« Odgovor #83 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 01:29:48 pre podne »
Da daš 50 e za vagu koja kao pokazuje procenat masti i vode u telu?
Pa zar stvarno neko veruje u to?
Procenat masti možeš da izmeriš na fakultetu za fizičku kulturu...ne znam gde mi je broj telefona ali raspitaj se i naći ćeš...i nije skupo...

Van mreže Blah

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Odg: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #84 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 10:16:24 pre podne »
Hvala na odgovorima!
Odlican forum  :D

Van mreže Sasa Ilic

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Odg: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #85 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 02:18:50 posle podne »
jer zna neko kakvog je kvaliteta sat za merenje pulsa marke ciklon?Da li da ga uzimam?

Van mreže Blah

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Odg: Trcanje pre ili posle teretane
« Odgovor #86 poslato: Maj 03, 2007, 10:19:41 posle podne »
Dakle, ako smem da rezimiram :D

Princip trcanja je HIIT (tempo npr. 1-1), trajanje 20min ( DA LI VISE, tj DA LI POVECAVATI VREMENOM?), 2-3 puta nedeljno je dosta? Ako ne, kako, koliko?


Ako bih trcao posle treninga, da li jedem nesto (tipa suvo grozdje ili neka vrsta PWMa) ili sve to posle trcanja?

Hvala puno jos jedanput!!

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« Odgovor #87 poslato: Maj 04, 2007, 08:55:20 posle podne »
mozes i 5 puta sedmicno ako imas sto da skidas
ja sam ga povecao na 30min ujutro i 20min posle treninga

Van mreže Tanja U.

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« Odgovor #88 poslato: Januar 03, 2008, 01:21:05 posle podne »
Evo jos jedna studija koja govori o tome kad je najbolje odradjivati kardio ...

Tekst je malo duzi, mrzelo me da prevodim :)

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In Kinakin’s book, he outlined a simple three-point rating system with low (1), medium (2) and high (3) risk-benefit ratings, which I have adopted here for fat loss techniques. An exercise that is low risk (1), low benefit (1) might safely provide benefits to a beginner, but would do little for advanced trainees. An exercise with high risk (3) and low benefit (1) shows poor technique with high potential for negative effects (such as muscle loss, overtraining or injury), which are not balanced by any substantial benefits. Low risk (1) and high benefit (3) generally indicates an all-around excellent method with great benefits and virtually no downside. Techniques can also fall somewhere in the middle (medium risk and medium benefit).

With risk management and careful tracking of results, high-risk Fat Loss techniques can often be used very successfully. The ratings of each technique that follow will help you decide which ones best apply to you.

THE TECHNIQUES

* Fasted cardio in the morning
One of the most controversial fat loss techniques is performing cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. This method is widely embraced by bodybuilders and recommended by many Personal Trainers and nutritionists. Other experts claim that the risk of muscle loss is too high and they argue whether workout timing makes any difference in the overall scheme of 24 hour energy expenditure. With low blood sugar and low glycogen levels on awakening, it appears that the body is in a perfect state to burn fat preferentially, but combined with high a.m. cortisol levels, it may also be a perfect state to burn muscle. Therefore, the benefit is high, but so is the risk. Body composition must be carefully monitored when using this technique.
RISK: 3 (high)
BENEFIT: 3 (high)

* Cardio in the morning after protein consumption
One of the biggest concerns brought up by opponents of fasted morning cardio is the potential for losing lean body mass. One way to help combat the possible loss of lean body mass is to eat a small protein-only meal or to consume a protein drink (no carbs) immediately upon awakening, then perform the cardio shortly thereafter. This decreases the risk by suppressing cortisol and preventing muscle breakdown, while maintaining the high benefit by keeping your blood sugar and insulin levels low.
RISK: 2 (moderate)
BENEFIT: 3 (high)

* Cardio at night
Many bodybuilders and Weight Loss seekers perform cardio late at night and then do not eat afterward in an attempt to increase fat loss. There are benefits to this method, but they are moderate at best, and the risks are high. Late night training may also keep you awake, disrupting your sleep cycle and recovery. Once you do fall asleep, your metabolic rate decreases rapidly, so you don’t reap the full value of the post workout metabolic increase that is achieved with exercise earlier in the day. Risk of muscle loss is high, so body composition must be monitored very closely.
RISK: 3 (high)
BENEFIT: 2 (moderate)

* Short duration, high intensity interval training
One of the most popular trends in fitness today is high intensity interval training (HIIT). These workouts consist of short periods of high intensity work intervals followed by short periods of lower intensity recovery intervals. Generally, the intervals are 30 to 120 seconds in length and the total duration is in the 15-25 minute range. Research has shown that H.I.I.T Training causes a larger increase in post-exercise energy expenditure than moderate intensity, steady-state exercise, which keeps you burning calories at an elevated rate for an extended period even after the workout is over. There are risks, especially to the beginner, the deconditioned or the person unaware of his or her health status. However, because intensity is relative to each individual, risk is moderate and easily managed, while the benefits are high. For someone who is already highly fit, the risks are lower.
RISK 2 (moderate)
BENEFIT 3 (high)

* Moderate duration, moderate to moderately-high intensity cardio
When cardio is performed for a moderate duration (approx 30 to 45 minutes per session) with the intensity held at the upper end of the “target heart zone,” (moderate to moderately-high), large amounts of body fat can be burned during the session. There is also a substantial post exercise elevation in metabolic rate, which, although not as high as that experienced from HIIT, also has a measurable impact on fat loss after the workout.
RISK: 2 (moderate)
BENEFIT: 3 (high)

* Long duration, low intensity cardio
Long duration cardio (60 minutes per day or more) does carry the benefit of more calories burned from fat and a moderately high cumulative calorie burn. However, intensity and duration are inversely related, therefore long duration cardio, by nature, is low in intensity. Low intensity cardio, while having the benefit of burning more fat relative to carbs, does not burn as many total calories per unit of time, nor does it have much impact on post exercise energy expenditure. This makes long duration, low intensity cardio (such as walking) most appropriate as a fat loss technique for beginners who can’t achieve higher intensities yet. Furthermore, this method is not time efficient. A long walk can be a very good (if not ideal) fat loss method for someone who is unfit, older, overweight, or has orthopedic problems. It also provides great health and even mental benefits. But there is little point in doing an hour or more per session when you can achieve equal if not greater Calorie Burn and post exercise metabolic increase by doing briefer sessions with higher intensity.
RISK: 1 (low)
BENEFIT: 2 (moderate)

* High frequency cardio (5-7 days per week)
Daily cardio performed at a sufficient intensity is considered by many to be a no-brainer fat loss technique for two reasons: First, total caloric expenditure is increased over the course of the week. Since fat loss is a function of calories burned versus calories consumed, increasing cardio activity from three days per week to six days per week, will in theory, double the rate of fat loss in that period. Second, frequent cardio helps maintain metabolic momentum and keeps the metabolism “spinning” by avoiding long periods of inactivity, resulting in metabolic slowdown. These two factors make the benefit of this technique high. There is moderate risk, however, of overtraining or muscle loss. Risk of aerobic adaptation also increases if the high frequency is maintained over a prolonged period of time. Risks increase relative to the duration of each session and the number of weeks the high volume is maintained. Brief daily sessions have an even more favorable risk to benefit ratio.
RISK: 2 (moderate)
BENEFIT: 3 (high)

* High-density weight training (increased volume per unit of time)
Ironically, one of the fat loss techniques with the best risk to benefit ratio has nothing to do with dieting or aerobics. Most bodybuilders decrease their rest intervals between sets and exercises prior to competitions in order to boost intensity, increase hypertrophy, release more growth hormone and simultaneously Burn more Fat.
This is known as high-density training and the goal is to condense more work into less time. The risks are low because even beginners can use the technique, they simply need to adjust the amount of resistance to their strength level. Strength gains are compromised on this type of program, but assuming the goal is fat loss, not strength, that would not be considered a risk. Benefits are highest when the majority of exercises selected are multi-joint movements involving large muscle groups, and/or activating the core and as much of the body as possible. (Note: other forms of high density weight training include supersets, tri sets and giant sets).
RISK: 1 (low)
BENEFIT: 3 (high)

Source: http://www.body-perfect-fitness.com/My-FREE-Womens-Fitness.html